Pink Floyd Patch Kurzweil Pc2x
Pink Floyd Patch Kurzweil Educational Systems. Such as Richard Wright of Pink Floyd and Rick Wakeman of. Kurzweil - Piano Keyboard Reviews. The Age of Reason.
Hi, I Just used Mainstage on a macbook for the first time live, (with a 88-note keyboard and a MH ULN-2) Coincidentaly, there was some Floyd in the set I have to say I was blown away by Mainstage. Being able to use all the Logic plugs and all my favorite AU's to create sounds was wonderful. The work in advance (programming the sounds, programming layers and keyboard splits) has been cut in half, time wise, with a wonderful graphical interface. As I was a stand in for another keyboard player, I had to program/learn/remember 34 songs which I never played before, in two days. Mainstage has been a huge life-saver. With the notes of the last chord still ringing, you can switch to to next song with one button, no weird hanging notes, see a graphical representation of the splits for the next song, along with a nice text field which I used to put down some changes and some lyrics (backingvocals).
I have never felt so comfortable on stage. No papers, no remembering program changes, SEEing where I put that one octave of strings for that one line in the bridge, wonderful. Not tot forget; with all the third party AU instruments combined with Logic stuff, THE most flexible sound-setup I have ever, ever used in a live situation. Sorry if I sound overly enthusiastic, but I really am stoked, this software has taken the stress out of my gigs, and let me enjoy the playing as much as I used to in my old 'just a piano and a hammond' setup. Cheers, Vidius. I have Nord Electro 2 and Lead 2x, also.
I am sure it isn't REALLY up to truly matching a real live Hammond, but both of these absolutely kill Logic virtual instruments and MainStage, because I've also tried getting crucial keyboard sounds out of MainStage and was really unhappy with it. Nords are pricey but it really seems as if they are workable by any standard and really top-end compared to GarageBand type stuff. I've heard virtual instruments be good, like Mr Ray, but for a broad range of professionally usable stuff I am very pleased with the Nords. I can even get a workable piano out of the Electro with some EQ like bass boost and a bit of a presence bump, and that is by far the weakest thing on the Electro. You do realize you can use any AU instrument with mainstage right? So basically you're saying NO virtual instrument is capable of producing crucial keyboard sounds for you? As much as I love the Nord stuff (and I really do) such a statement strikes me as a little odd.I only had the Logic instruments, but I'm the guy from Airwindows.
I was running like three plugins on everything to try and warm it up, fuzz it out, anything. I was using my own overdrives rather than the instrument's, I was using Chrome Oxide a lot in really teeny amounts just to shade the top-end a tiny bit, and after all that I still like the Nord better I'm not a keyboard player per se, that's not how I earn my living. But I certainly do have opinions on what sounds musically good and what doesn't, and for whatever reason the Nords sound terrific to me.
Important caveat- I liked the Lead 2X a lot better than the 3. It doesn't have quite the ability to do big lush padlike sounds, but there's a rawness that the Lead 3 just doesn't get. I have no idea why, but it was enough to tip me to the older version. If you're talking vintage type synth sounds there's no contest- it's like 70s vs.
No vintage stuff? What's the point?Too heavy But I suppose one of these will give you the authentic sound.
Look there's your perfect rig right there But a great SOFT synth I tried and was very impressed is Admiral Quality - POLY ANA Has no built in effects because it doesn't need it because it sounds so phat. I was looking for the delay knob to see what it sounded like with out it only to realise this is a truly Phat Synth and needs no delay effect to artificially fatten it up and the envelops are so natural they sound like reverb.
Hi, I was hoping someone could provide me with the synth sounds used by Pink Floyd, in particular the live Pulse versions of tunes. Not looking for guitar sounds, our lead player has those down. I'm just looking to complete the sound of Pink Floyd when we play these tunes.
Of course, I'd be willing to pay for this. I just don't have the time right now to search through all the different sounds available and learn how to manipulate them to get what I want. I have Komplete 8. I am very new to all this electronic stuff so I need a little help. I had hoped to find similar sounds and ended up acquiring a plug-in from a 3rd party vendor Bolder Sounds for SOYCD, my most desired goal. It is a crystal wine glass sample.
According to David Gilmour, they layered crystal wine glasses with the synths in the original recording. The plug-in has lots of potential and is beautiful. Eventually, I acquired Omnisphere which had everything in synth form. I think the basic style of synths included in Komplete are geared towards Dubstep, Electronica, Dance music and unsuitable for what Floyd was doing. Floyd eventually switched to Kuzweil 2600 boards and sampled their older analog synths. Omnisphere has samples from many legacy components used by Floyd. If suitable sounds exist in any Komplete component I did not find them.
I had worked at perfecting a lead synth for SOYCD and WTTM using Absynth but many Absynth patches have an inherent clicking anomaly that turned me off to it completely. You may track down the Absynth/clicks topic here and there online and ways to eliminate or reduce it but the fact that the presets were not cleaned up before being sold is inexcusable to me. (sorry to get off topic with a complaint). I am using a nice layer for Shine On in Kore along with Pro53 patch for the solo.
Run Like Hell is mostly B4II with the drive cranked for certain spots. The nice thing is, once you have a foundation of patches, you can build presets and performances with relevant sounds. DM me your email address and we can proceed from there. Russ --- Feel free to check out some samples on ReverbNation at Some of the audio is wonky as it is a room mic and a rehearsal.
I don't have the video or the audio from our big show yet. It will be posted when I do. Thing is with Shine On You Crazy Diamond is they did so many different version of that piece you have to be specific of which version you want to copy.
For the wine glass version I've done that on a hardware DX7-IID which should be easy to do on FM7 or FM8 - you just have to play with the algorithm used like I did on the DX7. Any FM synth should be able to cop that sound. Piano sounds - Rick Wright used Kurzweil K250's. Organ was a Hammond tone wheel B3 I think. For re-creating Gilmour's black Strat sound first you need a Strat with single coil pickups wound like Gilmour's - Fender makes a signature model of that axe - nice machine. You also need a Hiwatt amp, either the 50 or 100 watt version as he used both at different times.
Delay and the Digitech Whammy pitch bend pedal Gilmour used will help as well. Gilmour's pitch bend is a combo of the Digitech and string bend - it's neither alone. I don't think you should worry that much about the guitar beyond a Strat-type guitar with decent single coils.
David Gilmour has used a lot of things during his career including different studio processing every time a new album was recorded. He used a Les Paul straight into the console for the lead in Another Brick in the Wall. David Gilmour sounds like Gilmour using whatever gear is in his hands. No software amp sim will get THAT close anyway.
The closest I have heard Guitar Rig get to Gilmour was mostly due the musician getting Gilmour's style down well enough to improvise in a way Gilmour might improvise. You have to work at playing like him more than anything.
It is in his touch on the fretboard, the pauses and then of course the riffs. Here is a guy that seems to get Gilmour. This guy is not merely playing a Floyd lead note for note. I can imagine Gilmour doing those riffs*: [ame='tone out of Guitar Rig[/ame] *I have a DVD of someone teaching Gilmour leads note for note from a few Floyd songs. He has another DVD that shows how to apply those riffs to other jams. He sounds like he is just inserting leads from Floyd songs into the jams instead of integrating everything and producing a lead in the Gilmour style. He misses what the guy in this YouTube video seems to have grasped.
I don't think you should worry that much about the guitar beyond a Strat-type guitar with decent single coils. David Gilmour has used a lot of things during his career including different studio processing every time a new album was recorded. He used a Les Paul straight into the console for the lead in Another Brick in the Wall. David Gilmour sounds like Gilmour using whatever gear is in his hands. No software amp sim will get THAT close anyway. The closest I have heard Guitar Rig get to Gilmour was mostly due the musician getting Gilmour's style down well enough to improvise in a way Gilmour might improvise. You have to work at playing like him more than anything.
It is in his touch on the fretboard, the pauses and then of course the riffs. Here is a guy that seems to get Gilmour.
This guy is not merely playing a Floyd lead note for note. I can imagine Gilmour doing those riffs*: *I have a DVD of someone teaching Gilmour leads note for note from a few Floyd songs. He has another DVD that shows how to apply those riffs to other jams.
He sounds like he is just inserting leads from Floyd songs into the jams instead of integrating everything and producing a lead in the Gilmour style. He misses what the guy in this YouTube video seems to have grasped. Click to expand.Sorry OP for continuing this discussion. @jackn2mpu, I listened to a few demos of a Digitech Whammy pedal and cannot hear anything that puts me in mind of Gilmour with the exception of a few isolated moments in his repertoire (i.e.
Marooned) and he could have achieved that effect with the guitar's whammy bar rather than a pedal. I don't think it is useful in getting the general Gilmour sound. If one unique effect could do it I would suggest using a Univibe (something missing in Guitar Rig thus far at GR5). That with a basic amp, overdrive and echo adjusted properly will go a long way when you are playing riffs in his style. Easy, Omnisphere in Kontakt.
--- Sorry OP for continuing this discussion. @jackn2mpu, I listened to a few demos of a Digitech Whammy pedal and cannot hear anything that puts me in mind of Gilmour with the exception of a few isolated moments in his repertoire (i.e. Marooned) and he could have achieved that effect with the guitar's whammy bar rather than a pedal.
I don't think it is useful in getting the general Gilmour sound. If one unique effect could do it I would suggest using a Univibe (something missing in Guitar Rig thus far at GR5). That with a basic amp, overdrive and echo adjusted properly will go a long way when you are playing riffs in his style. Click to expand.If you don't think the Digitech Whammy pedal is useful in getting Gilmour's sound then you must not have seen any concert footage of him.
A Digitech Whammy has been a part of his pedalboard for ages so yeah, it's an integral part of his sound. He also uses his Strat's whammy bar as well as string bending, sometimes using those 2 techniques together. He doesn't use just one technique for bends. But those super deep bends and pitch shifts he does is the Digitech piece. Remember that any Digitech Whammy demos you may have seen won't show you Gilmour's sound - all they do is to show basic uses for it.
And it's not so much echo as it is delay on his sound. Totally different sounds.
Click to expand.Those dips could be generated from either method, I agree, however isolate the dips and they do not represent a substantial contribution to the Gilmour sound. He did not start doing them routinely in his leads until A Momentary Lapse of Reason. Those dips and therefore the Digitech Whammy are not the quintessential Gilmour effect having more impact on his sound than several other tools. Also, there is no difference between an echo and a delay. It is like saying black and ebony are not the same color of pigment. One company decides they like a term better than the other for their products. Point Of View Drivers.
Sometimes they want to rekindle the memory of vintage gear and use a term used in a past product like Echoplex. Sometimes they simply feel one term better describes the effect than the another.
Sometimes it depends on what adjustment knobs are featured in the component. Echo or delay are terms with the same definition chosen subjectively by the manufacturer. Those dips could be generated from either method, I agree, however isolate the dips and they do not represent a substantial contribution to the Gilmour sound.
He did not start doing them routinely in his leads until A Momentary Lapse of Reason. Those dips and therefore the Digitech Whammy are not the quintessential Gilmour effect having more impact on his sound than several other tools. Also, there is no difference between an echo and a delay. It is like saying black and ebony are not the same color of pigment. One company decides they like a term better than the other for their products.
Sometimes they want to rekindle the memory of vintage gear and use a term used in a past product like Echoplex. Sometimes they simply feel one term better describes the effect than the another. Sometimes it depends on what adjustment knobs are featured in the component. Echo or delay are terms with the same definition chosen subjectively by the manufacturer. Click to expand.Apparently you have in mind a certain sound that you think is Gilmour's and seem to be stuck in a certain point of time for his sound which is okay. But you also refuse to acknowledge that he has other signature sounds that are a significant part of his repertoire.
Whether he used them all his playing life or not doesn't matter - the fact is he used the things I mentioned that a lot of people will see in concert dvd's and it's a quintessential effect for Gilmour. Something to remember is that the hardware is only PART of his or any other guitarist's sound.
A lot of it is in the player's fingers. Gilmour can play anything and an astute listener can tell it's him. Just as Clapton still sounds like Clapton whether he's playing a Strat or ES335 through a Marshall stack or Fender Tweed Twins or he's just playing an acoustic guitar. Clapton used a wah for a goodly part of his playing but doesn't anymore which doesn't negate his use or significance of said effect in/on his sound. Quintessential sound - you have to ask what era?
If you've seen DG's concerts you'd see he uses Strats, a Telecaster, an acoustic and pedal steel. And for Strats he's got a couple of different ones - the black Strat and the red one (which EMG is selling a prewired pickguard/pickup set for), each with different electronics and I'm not just talking about pickups. And don't forget most guitarists don't use those big amps in the studio - they use little low powered pieces. That's so they can crank that sucker and get overdrive without tons of volume.
I'm not talking out my hat either - I've been both sides of the glass in a studio. Guitars and keys on the performing side.